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Looking for advice

My partner and I are looking to buy an apartment next year but ideally don’t want to put too much 頭金 in.


Anyone here have a good bank recommendation?


We’ll be married next year and he should’ve gotten his PR by then.


Any advice is welcomed!


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Since some of you asked, here’s our profile:

Me - Japanese citizen

Partner - applying for his PR


We’re trying to get a “used” apartment, but only under his name since I already own an apartment (and don’t have a lot of buffer left to get another loan) and we won’t be married till mid next year so can’t do pair loan yet.


So ideally, looking for a bank that’ll loan him without his PR and have a minimum down payment requirement.

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If you’re looking to buy a newly built property, your best bet is to ask the condo’s salesperson.


If you’re looking to buy a second-hand apartment, there tend to me multiple options, but those can be narrowed down by your “attributes” - how much you (and your partner) make/makes, what kind of company you work for, for how long… I’m a Japanese national, but you mention PR - so your experience might be different from mine. Usually any bank likes to lend money to a person who they would think is “stable.” Lawyers, doctors, teachers, government workers, workers for traditional big Japanese companies are deemed safer. By way of example, my husband is a government worker, and he makes only one third of what I make. But the bank demanded a CV from me.


So it’s hard to give you any advice without details. And not all real estate agents are really familiar with what’s best for you. Better to find somebody in a similar situation and compare notes.


Best of luck in your house hunting!

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Appreciate your comment! I myself is Japanese and have purchased an apartment before using Sony bank but the interest rate, down payment, other criteria are so different for Japanese citizens and PR holders…


Did you and your husband get pair loan? If you don’t mind me asking, will you share which bank you used, the interest rate, and how much 頭金 you needed to pay? Assuming your husband had PR (or a spouse visa) when you applied for the house.


Thanks in advance!

My case is a bit of an outlier - I am not on his family registry; he’s not on my family registry. This means that we’re only unofficially married (the reason is that we don’t want to change our names as we’re both published authors). My husband is also a Japanese, though😕


Yes, I got a pair loan at Yokohama Bank. Most of the other banks didn’t bother to deal with a “complicated” case like ours, but BoY was willing because they have some experience with similar cases and our contract size was big for them. They are based in Yokohama, so our property in the center of Tokyo is worth a lot more than most of the properties that they have equity for in Kanagawa. The branch manager was very happy and accommodating.


We did not need any deposit. Our property was about ¥100M. Interest rate was 0.31% (variable). But we paid for fees associated with the contract in cash.


My advice is that, if you think your case is a bit different from most of other cases and “complicated” to some extent, try some of the banks that actually have humans behind the process. Usually it’s difficult for internet banks to deal with non-straightforward cases - I’d go for any major banks (UFJ, Mitsui Sumitomo, Mizuho…) or major local banks like BoY (Chiba Bank was also willing). I’d also try Prestia, if your property is expensive. Usually the max loan amount for a property is ¥100M, but Prestia has a product for more expensive properties. And even if the bank says the max loan amount is ¥100M, they actually approve higher amounts case by case basis. When I was looking, I got pre approvals for more expensive properties without deposit requirement, up to about ¥150M. I also heard that how high you can get depends on how much cash you actually have and show - banks feel safer to lend more money when they can see you actually have the cash if you want to use it.


I know some banks do pair loans if you’re engaged. You just need to ask individually, but I heard it’s a little easier than our case (unofficial marriage or de-facto marriage). In your case, I’d imagine you’d have more options if you do a pair loan with your partner esp without his PR. Of course it’s better and easier if you’re actually married, though!


Hope this helps!

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Super super helpful, again, thank you so so much! Will look into it more.

I’m non-Japanese with PR and I bought a second hand place 2 years ago; I put down zero down payment on the loan but needed 5% of the value of the property to take it off the market. Once the loan came though I got the money back.


In many cases the properly seller, be it a new build or second hand though a sales agent will have a preferred bank.


My advice is, go talk to your current bank and get their view on how much they are willing to lend you - an agreement in principal as they call it. Then go look at places within your budget, if you like it move fast (which you can with an agreement in principle in hand.


Remember you do need 5-10% of the property in liquid cash even if it isn’t used as part of the down payment.


You can also use the same loan to do renovations - the place we bought had original decor from the 70s and the developer was gutting it when we saw it, we got involved in the renovation process and loan covered the cost of the property and the renovation.


You can also split your mortgages in to a fixed rate and variable rate (I did 50:50) and split is you taking a bet on Japan’s interest rates.


Switching mortgages in Japan is expensive, once you are in don’t expect to change until you complete the loan or want to sell the place.


I would definitely get PR if you can before you kick the process off as it does change how much and who you can borrow from.


Happy hunting.

Really useful stuff, thanks! I’m assuming you did pair loan with your partner? Are they Japanese or a PR holder? And did you have PR when you applied? Also which bank did you end up going with? Apologies for bombarding you with questions.


I’m starting to feel like getting married and waiting for my partner’s PR is inevitable if we want a place. He got an approval from Prestia without his PR but the catch is he needs to put down 20% of the apartment in cash…. Not that easy in this economy.


Anyhow thanks again!

Although I am married to a Japanese wife, I’m the sole loan applicant. She doesn’t contribute to the household income and the bank only cared about my income / health.


Yes, I got my PR for about a year before we bought the place.

We got the loan from SMBC(not PRESTIA which used to be Citi in the end, it was the developers choice and I looked around and the rates/products were the same as others.


20% is a large amount for a first time buyer. The silent expectation is that you can pull that from the bank of mom&dad so that the bank doesn’t have to take the risk.


If there’s a path to PR, I would go down that path first as it massively help (not just buying but owning property as well).


Without PR everything has this funny visa based expiry date on it, which increase the paperwork.

That’s great you didn’t have to put in too big of a down payment. Well probably wait till my partner gets a PR. Thank you so much again!

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